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Thanks for the challenging, enlightening, thought-provoking chat with Prof Sam Vaknin.

Another “joker” must be added to the deck that Sam peripherally touched on: the fantasy that is the foundation of industrial civilization —- the eternal possibility of unlimited growth. Perhaps the wild card is best labelled “karma” —- collapse of systems like ours based on that fantasy, is inevitable. While the apocalypse of 100s of previous empires, following resource depletion & overshoot, was “merely” a localized event … this is a first in our history: all on the globe will be adversely affected.

Also good to consider alternatives to Sam’s contention that “aloneness” is a more natural condition of humanity, that “society” is an artificial mind-construct. Consider that that the dichotomy of aloneness / society was created about 10-12000 years ago, when the virus of believing that humanity was separate from Nature, began to spread … when the fundamental ignorance that humans had the “divine right” to exploit / extract anything & everything else on the planet, regardless of long-term consequence (a basis for narcissism!) created patriarchal hierarchies, , misogyny, capitalism. There are still pockets of small societies in which the ancient, indigenous wisdom of “all life is one” underlies the politics, culture, economics of those small sustainable groups … and most likely, they will be the seeds of wiser humanity that survives the collapse of our polluting, destructive capitalistic “civilization”

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Aline Haag's avatar

Regards from a wild, relentless, indomitable, although adorable side of the World, also known as poor cousin West. Despite the infinite natural resources 😂 and also human resources, btw...as u can percieve...😘

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